History, Culture and General Discussion

I recieved an e-mail from Gary Felix about my Y-DNA findings of Haplogroup N for my Gutierrez line. I was not correct on the information on the Haplogroup N report for my Gutierrez line. 80% of Chinese are Haplogroup O, a offshoot of Haplogroup N so the odds of our line being Chinese are very slim.. Gary said that the odds are my Gutierrez line are Native American originally from Siberia and Russia by way of China.. They would have immigrated abt 15,000 years ago so any trace's of the Asian features would not really apply to us.. So, I guess we got our slanted eyes from our Indio ancestor's after all... (I kinda liked being Chinese)... oh well, back to the drawing board..

Here is the reply I got from my Family History Center manager:

> ps: is that 800 number to the LDS church in SLC available to the
> public? Can I hand it out to the genealogy group i have so they can

http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/562769-1.html

Joseph,

Above is a link to a great article on one of your relatives that apparently inherited the Puentes Bros business now headquartered in Salem, Oregon. I tried to copy the article and send it to Ranchos, but you have to register for a password in order to read the entire article (four pages).

When I stayed in a small town in Coahuila as a young teenager, this was the
highlight of pre-determined evenings. We would all dress up, head towards
the plaza with the elders and begin walking (in one direction), while the guys

Malaga, Spain, Tino and I vacationed there years ago, just down from
> Torremolinos. It's a beautiful area of Spain. I don't recall
> Benalmadena,
> nor the feria being mentioned. We were there August 1989.

Not a real big deal now but lets try to keep the messages on the right
lists:

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What a small world, My parents owned the Warburton's Tamales and Enchilada Shop in Santa Clara and bought about 500 tortillas weekly from Puentes Bros. They used to make their own tortillas while the shop was in Santa Clara, but when they bought a restaurant in Mountain View, they took to buying their tortillas from Puentes Bros. That would have been the mid 50s. I just talked to my Mom and she remembers either your Mother or Aunt's birthday being on St. Patrick's Day. My brother took over the Tamale business in the early 80's and I am not sure where he was buying the tortillas then. Warburton's is now closed but my twin and I still get together and make the tamales and enchiladas. To celebrate the business's 100th anniversary, in 2004, Mom gave out the recipe to all our cousins. My parents were Bud and Aileen Chiono in case your family remembers them.

http://genealogy.about.com/od/publishing/a/printing.htm

Joseph,

I had been meaning to ask you about that picture of the men in front of the "Puentes Bros" store.

My husband and I were brought from the Southwest to San Jose as children right after WWII (he from El Paso, age 12, and me from New Mexico's Mesilla Valley, age 8). We lived there, went to school (St. Joseph's, Washington Elementary, Wilson Jr. High, SJ High, SJCC, SJSU), worked there, and retired there before moving up to the Northwest in 1996. Our families in San Jose always bought the corn tortillas at Puentes Bros. since Safeway didn't sell any Mexican products, and I remember my mother would pick up the masa, chiles, etc. for tamales there too.

I've run across a surname that does not comply with the traditional Mexican progression of surnames. In other words, the name of the person is not followed by the surname of the father, then the surname of the mother.