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agustin mota wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: agustin mota
Subject: Suniga -Luna
To:

I am looking for my lost family can you help? The only information i have is oral history. My grandfathers name was Asencion Luna Haro born around 1892 in Cuculiten Jalisco. My great grandfathers name was Crespin Luna he married Severiana Haro both i believe from the same area.my grandmothers name was Clemencia Suniga born around 1910, married at age 13 died at about age20. after there marrige nothing was ever herd about the Suniga elders. My great grandfathers name was Pedro Suniga i was told came from the Tepetongo area.I was told years ago and recently that there had been a fire in Momax and that these records were lost. My aunts have birth certificates but they provided the information so that the certificate could be made.I know this for a fact.So any information will help get started.I am also reaserching Mota,Herrera,Alvares all from the Momax area these names are progresing due to other records.Thank you all Agustin from northern Sonoma county.

Is anyone else searching this area? I might of found some of my ancestors from this place. Here is the following information from IGI.

Jose Norverto de la Cueba and Maria Salome Gonzales
Marriage: May 15, 1787

For Raul Fernandez, I just noticed I have some records for what I think are your lines in Los Haros. I have records I haven't entered in to my files yet but if you go to Rootsweb and put in Matilde (Maria) Santiago birth date 1872 it will pull up the family and the records I have on that line. I don't have the ancestor that connects you but I do have 3 children for them as well as some ancestors, hope it's your line and of some help to you.

Hola a todos los del grupo:

Quisiera saber si alguien sabe algo del apellido compuesto
Díaz-Santana, ya que tengo unos tios primos de mi madre que
tienen ese apellido, y quisiera saber mas de el mismo.

I recommend the following books:

Dogs of God : Columbus, the Inquisition, and the defeat of the Moors / James
Reston, Jr., New York : Doubleday : c2005.

"To The End Of The Earth : A History Of The Crypto-Jews Of New Mexico" by

Can anyone help me with Lopez de Elisalde line? Nicolas Lopez de Elisalde and Regina de Albarado? Does anyone have their complete genealogy? Thanks.

Hello Ed,
My mother's maiden name is Onate, and she is reported to have been born in either Villa Garcia, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes, Ags. I say reported because she had no birth certificate, grew up believing she was from Aguascalientes until she met her aunt Leonarda Onate who told her otherwise. Tia also took us to meet her brother Adolfo Onate living at the time (1960's)in Guadalajara. I have not been able to verify through FHC where she was born. My grandfather was Luis Onate and my ggrandfather was Don Rosalio De Onate. I was also taken to Don Rosalio's tomb inside a church in Aguascalientes. Unfortunately, I was about 12 at the time and not much interested. My mother's oral family history sounds like a gothic novel. Ironically, the only records I have found are from Panuco, Zacatecas 1882 on the marriage of my maternal grandmother--Santelices. I'm aware of the Onate history you so kindly made available; it's much more recent past that's got me stumped! Alice

I hope this helps someone.

I am doing research on my Aguilar ancestors and while doing research I
ran into these.

Elvira

Descendants of Narciso Aguilar

Generation No. 1

1. NARCISO1 AGUILAR was born 1826 in , , Mexico, and died in Hacienda

Ed,

Read your wondering about dual names with regards to the Jewish persons and their possibility of dual names. I have to say to those who were brave enough to practiced openly may not have, but those who were the converso basically had two lives and with that two or more names. Depending on their social status and the jobs closest to the crown made the true identity all the more important to hide.

The discussion on crypto jews in the New World had me googling around for more information on Jews and Muslims in the New World recently. I was intrigued by someone's mention of their grandmother being a "mesquita", supposedly meaning "mosque" so I took that to refer to Muslims in the New World, since Muslims go to "mosques" and Jews go to their "temples".