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Research Digest, Vol 165, Issue 1


By Patricia - Posted on 03 October 2019

Hi, Laurel....Orendain in Spanish (pronunciation) would be
"oh-ren-dine"....the "r" has a "rolled r" sound...long i sound...if you
google pronouncenames.com you can hear the pronunciation...best wishes on
your venture!

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:27 PM
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> I am having an audiobook produced, dedicated to my great-grandmother,
> Hipolita Orendain de Medina. I need to know the correct Spanish
> pronunciation of "Orendain." I've gone to a variety of resources online,
> but they don't all agree. I have no contact with any living relatives in
> Mexico. Is the "dain" part of the name pronounced similar to the English
> "dain" (long a sound), "dine" (long i sound) or "dean/deen" (long e sound)
> ? And where should the accent mark fall?
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> I truly would appreciate your assistance.
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> Thank you,
> Laurel Anne Hill
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Two Diego de Alcocer
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> Hi Rick, I see ?hermano?. I am however a novice in reading old
> manuscript. I?ve asked a few people including historians and credible
> genealogists and they concur. Maybe others can weigh in? I see: ?QUE EL
> DOCTOR JUAN D?AZ DE ALCOCER DEL NUESTRO CONSEJO VUESTRO HERMANO... ? In
> this immediate family there are many Diego?s and a few Pedro?s so I?m
> not surprised that people easily get them confused and much of my research
> is
> in secondary resources since Not everything is online and I?m in
> California. According to Los Conversos y la Inquisicion Sevillana by Juan
> Gil
> v. 3, page 206-211. Dr. Juan Diaz de Alcocer was the Brother of Diego
> Alcocer
> (married to Blanca). Other brothers include 1. Fernando married to Gracia
> de
> Prado ( I think the Prado Madrid fam) 2. Pedro Gonzalez de Alcocer
> Coincidently, in vol. 5 p. 394 of this book series it lists Pedro de Toledo
> married to Beatriz Fernandez, parents of Blanca Nunez is listed in
> reference
> to Beatriz testamento in 1508 where she requests to be buried in San
> Bartolom? ( juder?a Sevilla) and names her children. 1. Rodrigo de Toledo
> 2. Garcia de la Torre 3. Blanca Nunez , mujer del jurado Diego de Alcocer.
> I?d be interested to know anything u would like to share on Pedro de
> Toledo. My research so far encompasses the alcocers including Maria Ortiz
> their mother but I?ve barely scratched the surface if Blanca. Best, Maven
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> Hi Sus, This is great. Thank you for sharing. I found my many times gg
> greatfather hernando Frias recorded. Best, Maven
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