Asientos de Ibarra - Joseph de Herrera and Maria Antonia Mathiana Macias

Hi everyone

I have a couple in my tree that I am stuck on. I haven't had much chance to read through actual films looking for them. Currently I am reading IMs for Villanueva, but this couple is next on my list so I was wondering if anyone knew anything or had any clues.

All I have are their names on the record of their son's first marriage
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F7XC-G?i=221&wc=3JHQ-HZ3%3A171936201%2C171936202%2C174812401&cc=1874591

And their names again on the baptism record of their grandson from their son's second marriage (padrinos Antonio and Maria Rosalia Macias)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-57R5-V?i=149&wc=3JXL-4WP%3A172698801%2C172698802%2C172698803&cc=1874591

I could not find an IM in Colotlan for the first marriage and I read through the Colotlan death films and did not see death records for Joseph or Mathiana, nor have I been able to identify any siblings for Marcelino. Imagine Joseph and Mathiana would have been born sometime between 1700-1730 depending on how old Marcelino is. He died in 1838.

I wondered if anyone more familiar with families from Asientos de Ibarra knew anything of this couple.

Thanks in advance

~ Andrea