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Record Deciphering Request. New connections Muro/Salas/Arizmendi


By The Genealogist - Posted on 05 April 2016

Not long ago I was working on finding the parents of Maria de Arizmendi (wife of Juan del Muro (I)). Thanks to “Katy’s Guadalajara Dispensa Index,” an Ordones for Aparicio del Muro in 1731 solves this, but presents new questions.

But first some family tree information:

Aparicio del Muro is the son of Juan del Muro (II) and Antonia de Avila. Antonia de Avila is the daughter of Maria de Chirriaga, but not by her husband Pedro del Muro (II), but by another man as clarified in her 1693 marriage dispensa Found here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6PGH?mode=g&i=225&wc=3J4Q-ZNP%3A171935001%2C171974101%2C175791001%3Fcc%3D1874591&cc=1874591

Juan del Muro (II) is the son of Juan del Muro (I) and Maria de Arizmendi. Juan del Muro (I) is also a brother to Pedro del Muro (II) (husband of Maria de Chirriaga).

In the Ordones 1730-1741, on image 404, right page, continued on image 405. Starting here:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DN1J-M?mode=g&i=403&wc=3JW2-HZ3%3A171935001%2C171974101%2C179991601%3Fcc%3D1874591&cc=1874591

(Note: The whole document starts from image 258 to 265, then continues from 398 to 412)

The third testigo, Lorenzo Lopez Pichardo, names the maternal grandparents of the “presenta” (Juan del Muro (II)) as Juan de Arizmendi and Maria de la Candelaria Rios (these are the parents of Maria de Arizmendi). He continues by saying that the paternal grandparents of the “presenta” (Juan del Muro (II)) are unknown to him (though I know from my own research that they are Pedro del Muro (I) and Maria de Salas). Instead of paternal grandparents, the said Lorenzo Lopez Pichardo, names Pedro de Salas and his wife Juana de Bonilla, but I do not understand what the document is saying about them.

Can anyone help decipher this part?

A little more information on this couple can be seen in the wiki tree found here:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Salas-13

Unfortunately, it does not show any connection to the del Muros.

Who are Pedro de Salas and Juana de Bonilla to Juan del Muro (II)? …His paternal great-grandparents? (if Pedro de Salas is Maria de Salas’ father)...His paternal great uncle? (If Pedro de Salas is Maria de Salas’ brother) … or His adoptive grandparents?