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Mystery Solved, Scandal Revealed?


By Xayme - Posted on 12 December 2013

First of all I'd like to thank Nuestros Ranchos. If it wasn't for this web site I would never have been in contact with the person that inadvertently "resolved" what had been my 16 year genealogical dead end; Miguel BELTRAN.

I had gone back to a great grandfather Jorge JAIME born sometime in the late 1600s in Aguascalientes "de padres no conocidos." Every document I had pulled on him had said the same about his parents. However, I knew that someone had to know because ever document insisted that he was "Espanol." Which everyone that is familiar with that time period knows that it would not be a claim to be taken lightly.

Miguel BELTRAN discovered Jorge's parents while looking the marriage investigation record of one of Jorge's grandchildren; Tadeo Antonio JAIME. Which states that Jorge's parents were Diego JAIME with Maria SANDOBAL ORIBARRI. And so I went off to investigate Diego JAIME.

Several years ago I had submitted my YDNA to FamilyTreeDNA.com in an effort to get a hint or clue where Jorge JAIME may have been from. Several years of waiting generated nothing substantial. That is until several weeks ago..

A few weeks ago I was informed that I had a "perfect" with three other people. When I logged on to see who the were I was surprised to discover that they were all ROMO, all doing research in this (Nuestros Ranchos) area. The same that I had been researching for over 20 years. After I analyzed the data I came up with a rough time period of us all having a common ancestor in the 1600s. But then begged the question. How did the surname change from ROMO to XAIMES in the 16000s? I had all of my documentation for all of my ancestors going back to the 1600s. Or did I? Then it hit me like a ton of bricks. All but Jorge JAIME born sometime in the 1600s"de padres no conocidos" in Aguascalientes were the ROMOs had already made a name for themselves.

  • So who was it?
  • Was Maria SANDOBAL OLIBARRI with more than one man?
  • Did Maria SANDOBAL OLIBARRI know that the real father was a ROMO DE VIVAR?
  • Did she know it was ???? ROMO DE VIVAR but in an effort save the ROMO DE VIVAR family from scandal blamed a "nobody," like Diego XAIMES?
  • Was she scared of what would happen to her if word got out that it was a ROMO DE VIVAR?
  • And which ROMO DE VIVARs would be likely candidates?

Well for the last question I can say that it could be:

  • Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (b.1589, d.1650)
  • Juan ROMO DE VIVAR (b. Abt. 1632)
  • Pedro ROMO DE VIVAR (b. 1632)
  • Diego ROMO DE VIVAR (b. Abt. 1630)
  • Geronimo ROMO DE VIVAR (?)
  • Francisco ROMO DE VIVAR (b.1644)

Recently, Armanco Antunano was assigned as Administrator for the FamilyTreeDNA.com web site group called "Nueva Galicia DNA Project", which I strongly urge everyone to join. (I'm not paid by them to promote it) As it holds the potential to reveal similar situations like mine. After joining the group Armando analyzed my YDNA and concluded without a doubt that I am a ROMO DE VIVAR. YDNA does not lie. Go figure...

Why Diego JAIME was listed as the father of Jorge JAIME in those marriage investigation records, we'll never know. But I would like know which ROMO was Jorge XAIMES' father to finally bring closure to years of research. In an effort to do this, I would like to know if there is any ROMO on this site that can trace their ancestry to any of these men, and has also submitted their YDNA.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Luis (JAIME?)