Research Digest, Vol 61, Issue 3

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Today's Topics:

1. REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Salvador Quirarte)
2. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Alicia Carrillo)
3. Re: Ana Macias Valadez esposa de Miguel Romo deVivar
Villalobos (Armando)
4. Ana Macias Valadez esposa de Miguel Romo deVivar Villalobos
(fandemma@gmail.com)
5. Esparza from Hacienda El Carro (richardlauraine@cox.net)
6. Re: Esparza from Hacienda El Carro (Daniel M?ndez Camino)
7. Re: Ana Macias Valadez esposa de Miguel Romo deVivar
Villalobos (Daniel M?ndez Camino)
8. Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez (mendezdelcamino@live.com)
9. Re: Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez (Jaime R. Alvarado)
10. Re: Trejo line (Erlinda Castanon-Long)
11. Re: Ana Macias Valadez esposa de Miguel Romo deVivar
Villalobos (Armando)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:08:05 -0600
From: Salvador Quirarte
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Cc: Salvador Quirarte
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
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Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:

I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

My research pretend to cover to different time lines:

1 - The oldest reference I have is from my grandparents Hermenegildo
Quirarte and Gumara Ruiz.
I have the bautism record of Hermenegildo, from April 13, 1858.. This
Bautism record states his Father was Refugio Quirarte and his mother was
Juana Romo.
>From Gumara Ruiz I have not found any record yet.
I never heard about brothers, sisters, cousins or uncles or other close
relatives on the Quirarte side out of a couple of old aunts named Marta Ruiz
and Amalia Ruiz Quirarte.
So I would like to get your advice in how and where to start digging
information.

2 - The second research focus in more recent happenings .
Hermenegildo and Gumara had two daughters and one son. Daughters were Maria
Quirarte Ruiz, Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz and Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
Cesar Quirarte Ruiz (my father) was the younger . He was born in 1901 and
was a recognized violinist. He was for manuy years the first violin of the
National Philarmonic Orchestra of Mexico and later Director of the Simphonic
Orchestra of Jalapa, Veracruz .
His sister Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz was the first women born in the
State of Zacatetas awarded with a Masters and a Doctorate degree. Her
achivements were recognized by the Congress of the State of Zacatecas.
Clotilde wrote several books about the story and language of Nochistlan,
that I would like to find.

The three brothers left Nochistlan very young after the Mexican revolution
ended and settle in Mexico City, where they study and work.
I also have two copies of the Bauptism record of Maria Quirarte Ruiz.
Both with the name of Ma. Raquel Quirarte. One dated 26 Dec 1893 and the
other dated 6 March 1895.
I recall that my father Cesar Quirarte Ruiz told me he has another brother
born and died before he was born.This boy was Christianed Cesar.
So if there were two brothers named Cesar, perhaps they also have two girls
named Maria. Once the first passed away the second was born and also
received the same name of Maria..

My research is motivated by the fact I just discovered that in a small town
close to Nochistlan, named RANCHO ACULCO, the Public pre-school has been
named: Escuela Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
I want to investigate if the name of the school is related to my father and
if so, why?
I called the Presidencia Municipal and nobody was able to explain me why the
school has that name.
Any help you can provide me in this subject will be very much appreciated.

Gracias y saludos
Salvador Quirarte
squirartetcn@gmail.com

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:09:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Alicia Carrillo
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
Message-ID: <350729.5309.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Salvador,

I was in Nochistlan a few years ago when I walked into a book store and I was
able to find they had several copies of one of her books on Nochistlan.

I have one of those books but I believe it might be possible to find a copy for
you in Nochistlan. If you want, I can inquire with one of my cousins who still
lives there to see if he can find you a copy. You can contact me off-line about
this at, alliecar@pacbell.net

Your Ancestress was and is very famous in Mexico for the same reasons you just
mentioned, she had many academic accomplishments for a woman of her times. She
was also a champion of the rights of the indigenous people of Mexico and she
wrote extensively about their language and their traditions.

Because my family is from Nochistlan and because one of my surnames is Ruiz,
I've done a bit of research on Evelia Clotilde Quirarte.

Saludos,
Alicia de San Jose, Ca.

________________________________
From: Salvador Quirarte
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Cc: Salvador Quirarte
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 4:08:05 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE

Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:

I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

My research pretend to cover to different time lines:

1 - The oldest reference I have is from my grandparents Hermenegildo
Quirarte and Gumara Ruiz.
I have the bautism record of Hermenegildo, from April 13, 1858.. This
Bautism record states his Father was Refugio Quirarte and his mother was
Juana Romo.
>From Gumara Ruiz I have not found any record yet.
I never heard about brothers, sisters, cousins or uncles or other close
relatives on the Quirarte side out of a couple of old aunts named Marta Ruiz
and Amalia Ruiz Quirarte.
So I would like to get your advice in how and where to start digging
information.

2 - The second research focus in more recent happenings .
Hermenegildo and Gumara had two daughters and one son. Daughters were Maria
Quirarte Ruiz, Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz and Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
Cesar Quirarte Ruiz (my father) was the younger . He was born in 1901 and
was a recognized violinist. He was for manuy years the first violin of the
National Philarmonic Orchestra of Mexico and later Director of the Simphonic
Orchestra of Jalapa, Veracruz .
His sister Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz was the first women born in the
State of Zacatetas awarded with a Masters and a Doctorate degree. Her
achivements were recognized by the Congress of the State of Zacatecas.
Clotilde wrote several books about the story and language of Nochistlan,
that I would like to find.

The three brothers left Nochistlan very young after the Mexican revolution
ended and settle in Mexico City, where they study and work.
I also have two copies of the Bauptism record of Maria Quirarte Ruiz.
Both with the name of Ma. Raquel Quirarte. One dated 26 Dec 1893 and the
other dated 6 March 1895.
I recall that my father Cesar Quirarte Ruiz told me he has another brother
born and died before he was born.This boy was Christianed Cesar.
So if there were two brothers named Cesar, perhaps they also have two girls
named Maria. Once the first passed away the second was born and also
received the same name of Maria..

My research is motivated by the fact I just discovered that in a small town
close to Nochistlan, named RANCHO ACULCO, the Public pre-school has been
named: Escuela Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
I want to investigate if the name of the school is related to my father and
if so, why?
I called the Presidencia Municipal and nobody was able to explain me why the
school has that name.
Any help you can provide me in this subject will be very much appreciated.

Gracias y saludos
Salvador Quirarte
squirartetcn@gmail.com