Research Digest, Vol 44, Issue 17

Hi Esperanza,
It took about 2 months for Los Angeles County to get back to me with an
official death certificate for my great grandmother who died in 1929. It was
frustrating in that there was no birth date and her birth year was given by
her son who was unsure. Review your documents carefully as it may give
you clues to other sources of information. The mortuary my family used is
still in business today and they were kind and helpful. They gave me the
service date, burial date and place as well as the name of the church (who I
have yet to contact). Also, if your family was/is Catholic the Los Angeles
Archdiocese web site is helpful. If you knew their address at the time
(from family members or census records) you may be able to figure out what
parish they attended and then you can review their records. Good luck!
Sherri Mora-Bass

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Today's Topics:

1. muri? de ojo (Stuart Armstrong)
2. Re: muri? de ojo (TERI ROMERO)
3. Re: muri? de ojo (rayjaur@comcast.net)
4. Los Angeles Birth & Death: Torres (epallana@sonic.net)
5. Re: Los Angeles Birth & Death: Torres (y b)

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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:48:41 -0600
From: Stuart Armstrong
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] muri? de ojo
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I couldn't quite make out the handwriting in the death record of a
young child, but after studying it I decided it could only be "muri? de
ojo". That didn't make sense so I looked up the many definitions of
"ojo" and guessed it might mean suddenly without apparent cause. Then
my wife told me that "de ojo" or "mal de ojo" was a superstition that
someone could be killed by a look, an evil eye, a sort of witchcraft.
Has anyone else run across this?

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Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:18:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: TERI ROMERO
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] muri? de ojo
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My mother always told us the story about one of my sisters who she felt
had died from this and had someone do a "remedy" to prevent her from being
sick. I think there were many old wives tales in our culture years ago and
even though she told the story I don't think she really believed it. Also,
my sister did die but probably from something else!

Teri Romero

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From: Stuart Armstrong
To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:48:41 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] muri? de ojo

I couldn't quite make out the handwriting in the death record of a
young child, but after studying it I decided it could only be "muri? de
ojo". That didn't make sense so I looked up the many definitions of
"ojo" and guessed it might mean suddenly without apparent cause. Then
my wife told me that "de ojo" or "mal de ojo" was a superstition that
someone could be killed by a look, an evil eye, a sort of witchcraft.
Has anyone else run across this?

--
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com