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General Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11
Hi,
After reading you "Right now the group is hovering around 160 member" in order to save you time I decide to have you remove me now. I am alway busy on the road going to different archives and genealogical groups that I can understand your situation.
I am resquesting to be removed from you site and e-mail list. Thank you for your time and the great job you do.
Take Care
Patsy Castro de Ludwig
Ludwig-paz@sbcglobal.net
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Today's Topics:
1. 31 January 2007 Reminder (Joseph Puentes)
2. Los Gutierrez Coronado ( Tom?s Alejandro Villegas G?mez )
3. Re: Recording George Ryskamp (Josie T. Trevino)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:20:38 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] 31 January 2007 Reminder
To: general@nuestrosranchos.com, announce@nuestrosranchos.com,
research@nuestrosranchos.com
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Right now the group is hovering around 160 members. . .but I predict
(please group members make me a false prophet). . .I predict that on the
32nd of January 2007 there will be 35% fewer members in the group. .
.WHY??? Because 35% of the new members will fail to do one of three things:
1) Understand that when they agreed to send in a representative tree
showing their connection to our area of research that I completely meant
they needed to do this within a reasonable time (i.e. 31 January 2007)
or be removed from the group.
2) They failed to communicate with me (makas(remove)@nc.rr.com or
moderator(remove)@nuestrosranchos.com) making a reasonable request for
additional time.
3) Send in their Genealogy Report.
Now I just want to take a second to say that the Nuestros Ranchos group
DOES NOT want your life's genealogical work sent in. Nor do we require
you to send in your gedcom (though several have and this is becoming a
popular way of meeting the requirement). All that is required is a
"REPRESENTATIVE" tree preferably in "genealogy report" form in either
.doc or .rtf format showing your connection to Jalisco, Zacatecas,
and/or Aguascalientes. This representative tree can be written into a
Word document or just into an email. It doesn't have to be fancy and can
be as simple as just listing your grandparents and great grandparents
along with their places and times of birth. . .heck while you're at it
toss in a few of their children and siblings just to flesh it out a bit.
That will take you all of 20-30 minutes to compose if you are a
"serious" researcher, but if you are not, well you might have trouble
and might need to strive toward becoming one by getting more involved.
If you are a new researcher and are in the process of finding
information all you need to do is send me an email and ask for an
extension. Believe me my bark is very much worse than my bite.
Another Note: When you send in your Genealogy Report make absolutely
sure that you "DO NOT INCLUDE LIVING RELATIVES" in the report!!! Very
important for security and privacy sake!!!
If you want to complete the whole process yourself (RECOMMENDED) then go
to the "Files" and then to "Members Genealogies" and see the "WRITTEN IN
STONE" format for the way your folder should look: Your Name (places of
your Nuestros Ranchos research) - PLEASE FOLLOW THIS FORMAT or I'll go
in later and change it. After you see the correct format then go to the
home page or any page of the site and click on "create content" and then
click on "File Folder."
If you have any questions about how to do this ASK!
sincerely and seriously getting down to business,
joseph - moderator
ps: If anyone out there would like to make a translated copy of this
please email me.
pps: i'll be sending out this reminder in October, November, December,
and finally one last time at the beginning of 2007. Probably around the
24th of November I'll start sharpening my Ax.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:12:17 -0500
From: " Tom?s Alejandro Villegas G?mez "
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los Gutierrez Coronado
To: general@nuestrosranchos.com
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From: Tom?s Alejandro Villegas G?mez
Date: 21-sep-2006 15:08
Subject: Re:
To: jorge luis ramirez gomez
Hola Jorge Luis:
Aqui te pongo lo poco que tengo de los Gutierrez Coronado,
espero te sirva de algo:
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Descendants of Juan Guti?rrez Coronado
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Generation No. 1
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1.
*Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado was born Aprox. 1618 in Ocotl?n, Jal.. He married
Mar?a Navarro-Gait?n-Cabrera 13 Dic 1643 in Ocotl?n, Jal., daughter of Pedro
Navarro-Gait?n and Mar?a de-Cabrera. She was born Aprox. 1626 in Ocotl?n,
Jal., M?x..
Notes for Mar?a Navarro-Gait?n-Cabrera:
El Jue-2-Ene-2003, busque en el IGI encontre estos datos como sigue:
Batch# F867916, Sheet# 034, Film# 1396254. Aqui dice que Maria Cabrera nacio
alrrededor 1596.,
y que sus padres son Martin Casillas y Mencia Gonz?lez de Cabrera. y el
listado de sus hijos.
More About Juan Guti?rrez Coronado and Mar?a Navarro-Gait?n-Cabrera:
Marriage: 13 Dic 1643, Ocotl?n, Jal.
Children of Juan Guti?rrez Coronado and Mar?a Navarro-Gait?n-Cabrera are:
2. i. Juan2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Aprox. 1645.
ii. Mar?a Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Feb 1647, Ocotl?n, Jal..
More About Mar?a Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro:
Baptism: 20 Feb 1647, Ocotl?n, Jal.
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iii. Petronila Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Ene 1649, Ocotl?n, Jal..
More About Petronila Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro:
Baptism: 28 Ene 1649, Ocotl?n, Jal.
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iv. Antonia Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Dic 1661, Ocotl?n, Jal..
More About Antonia Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro:
Baptism: 05 Dic 1661, Ocotl?n, Jal.
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v. Nicolasa Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Oct 1663, Poncitl?n Pueblo, Jal..
More About Nicolasa Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro:
Baptism: 01 Oct 1663, Poncitl?n Pueblo, Jal.
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3. vi. Felipe Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Aprox. 1666.
4. vii. J?se Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, b. Aprox. 1670.
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Generation No. 2
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2.
*Juan2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro (Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) was born Aprox.
1645. He married Juana de la Mora Zamora Aprox. 1671 in Ocotl?n, Jal.,
daughter of Fernando de la Mora and Mar?a Zamora. She was born Aprox. 1652.
More About Juan Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Juana de la Mora Zamora:
Marriage: Aprox. 1671, Ocotl?n, Jal.
Children of Juan Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Juana de la Mora Zamora are:
5. i. Juana3 Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora, b. Aprox. 1674, Ocotl?n, Jal..
ii. Juan Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora, b. Aprox. 1692, Ocotl?n, Jal.; m.
Justa-Lugarda de Alba Bocanegra Glez, 13 Ene 1721, San Felipe, Cuquio, Jal.;
b. Sep 1699, Tepatitl?n, Jal..
More About Justa-Lugarda de Alba Bocanegra Glez:
Baptism: 04 Sep 1699, Tepatitl?n, Jal.
More About Juan Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora and Justa-Lugarda de Alba
Bocanegra Glez:
Marriage: 13 Ene 1721, San Felipe, Cuquio, Jal.
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iii. Francisco Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora, m. Antonia de Alba Bocanegra
Glez, 01 Jun 1711, San Felipe, Cuquio, Jal.; b. Jul 1690, Tepatitl?n, Jal..
More About Antonia de Alba Bocanegra Glez:
Baptism: 20 Jul 1690, Capilla de Mezcala, Tepatitl?n, Jal.
More About Francisco Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora and Antonia de Alba
Bocanegra Glez:
Marriage: 01 Jun 1711, San Felipe, Cuquio, Jal.
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3.
*Felipe2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro (Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) was born
Aprox. 1666. He married Francisca Glez de Hermosillo Renteria Aprox. 1693 in
Jalostotitl?n, Jal., daughter of Melchor Gonz?lez de Hermosillo and
Francisca Renteria Mojica. She was born Aprox. 1675.
More About Felipe Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Francisca Glez de
Hermosillo Renteria:
Marriage: Aprox. 1693, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
Children of Felipe Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Francisca Glez de
Hermosillo Renteria are:
i. Felipe3 Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1694,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
ii. Melchor Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1696,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; d. 24 Oct 1747.
iii. Miguel Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1697,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; d. 03 Sep 1766.
iv. Antonio Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1702,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
v. Tom?s-Joaqu Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1707,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; d. 08 Oct 1747.
vi. Juan-Fco Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1714,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
6. vii. Jos?-Bonifa Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo.
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4.
*J?se2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro (Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) was born Aprox.
1670. He married Mariana Hermosillo Camarena Aprox. 1695 in Jalostotitlan,
Jalisco, Mexico, daughter of Miguel Gonz?lez de Hermosillo and Mar?a
Camarena. She was born Aprox. 1674 in Jalostotitl?n, Jal., and died 10 Ago
1716.
More About J?se Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Mariana Hermosillo Camarena:
Marriage: Aprox. 1695, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Children of J?se Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro and Mariana Hermosillo Camarena
are:
i. Mar?a3 Guti?rrez Coronado Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1696, Jalostotitl?n,
Jal.; d. 01 Jun 1763; m. Luis-Antonio Casillas Cabrera de Rodas, 12 Nov
1715, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; b. Aprox. 1685,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
More About Luis-Antonio Casillas Cabrera de Rodas and Mar?a Guti?rrez
Coronado Hermosillo:
Marriage: 12 Nov 1715, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
*
ii. Miguel Guti?rrez Coronado Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1698, Jalostotitl?n,
Jal.; d. 17 Feb 1759; m. Teresa Glez de Hermosillo Lomel?n, 22 Ene 1731,
Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; b. Unknown; d. 02 Dic 1731.
More About Miguel Guti?rrez Coronado Hermosillo and Teresa Glez de
Hermosillo Lomel?n:
Marriage: 22 Ene 1731, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
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iii. Ana Guti?rrez Coronado Hermosillo, b. Aprox. 1702, Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
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Generation No. 3
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5.
*Juana3 Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora (Juan2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro,
Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) was born Aprox. 1674 in Ocotl?n, Jal.. She married
Geronimo Glez de Hermosillo Renteria Aprox. 1694 in Ocotl?n, Jal., son of
Melchor Gonz?lez de Hermosillo and Francisca Renteria Mojica. He was born
Aprox. 1669 in Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
More About Geronimo Glez de Hermosillo Renteria and Juana Guti?rrez Coronado
de la Mora:
Marriage: Aprox. 1694, Ocotl?n, Jal.
Child of Juana Guti?rrez Coronado de la Mora and Geronimo Glez de Hermosillo
Renteria is:
i. Geronimo4 Glez de Hermosillo Gtz Coronado, m. Ana-Gertrudis Lozano
Enr?quez, 29 Nov 1722, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.; b. Mar
1702, Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
More About Ana-Gertrudis Lozano Enr?quez:
Baptism: 22 Mar 1702, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
More About Geronimo Glez de Hermosillo Gtz Coronado and Ana-Gertrudis Lozano
Enr?quez:
Marriage: 29 Nov 1722, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
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6.
*Jos?-Bonifa3 Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo (Felipe2 Guti?rrez Coronado
Navarro, Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) He married Ana Gonz?lez 01 Jul 1748 in
Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal..
More About Jos?-Bonifa Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo and Ana Gonz?lez:
Marriage: 01 Jul 1748, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
Child of Jos?-Bonifa Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo and Ana Gonz?lez is:
7. i. Prudencio4 Guti?rrez Coronado.
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Generation No. 4
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7.
*Prudencio4 Guti?rrez Coronado (Jos?-Bonifa3 Guti?rrez Coronado Glez
Hermosillo, Felipe2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro, Juan1 Guti?rrez Coronado) He
married Ma-Dolores Hermosillo 11 May 1785 in Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n,
Jalostotitl?n, Jal., daughter of Cristobal Hermosillo Padilla and Josefa
Alvarez Tostado Ram?rez Hermosillo.
More About Prudencio Guti?rrez Coronado and Ma-Dolores Hermosillo:
Marriage: 11 May 1785, Ntra. Sra. Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n, Jal.
Child of Prudencio Guti?rrez Coronado and Ma-Dolores Hermosillo is:
8. i. Severiana5 Guti?rrez Hermosillo.
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Generation No. 5
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8.
*Severiana5 Guti?rrez Hermosillo (Prudencio4 Guti?rrez Coronado, Jos?-Bonifa
3 Guti?rrez Coronado Glez Hermosillo, Felipe2 Guti?rrez Coronado Navarro,
Juan 1 Guti?rrez Coronado) She married Jos?-Agustin Mart?n del Campo P?rez
07 Ene 1812 in Tepatitl?n, Jal., son of Jos?-Antonio-Boni Mart?n del Campo
de la Torre and Ma-Antonia P?rez de Paredes Ochoa. He was born Dic 1787 in
Tepatitl?n, Jal..
More About Jos?-Agustin Mart?n del Campo P?rez:
Baptism: 12 Dic 1787, Tepatitl?n, Jal.
More About Jos?-Agustin Mart?n del Campo P?rez and Severiana Guti?rrez
Hermosillo:
Marriage: 07 Ene 1812, Tepatitl?n, Jal.
Children of Severiana Guti?rrez Hermosillo and Jos?-Agustin Mart?n del Campo
P?rez are:
i. Ma-Cecilia6 Mart?n del Campo Guti?rrez, b. 22 Nov 1817.
More About Ma-Cecilia Mart?n del Campo Guti?rrez:
Baptism: 29 Nov 1817, Sagrario Metropolitano, Guadalajara, Jal.
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ii. Ma-Anacleta Mart?n del Campo Guti?rrez, b. Jul 1822, Tepatitl?n, Jal..
More About Ma-Anacleta Mart?n del Campo Guti?rrez:
Baptism: 22 Jul 1822, Tepatitl?n, Jal.
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Descendants of Rosalia Guti?rrez Coronado
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Generation No. 1
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1.
*ROSALIA1 GUTI?RREZ CORONADO died Bef. Jun 1792. She married JOAQUIN GONZ?LEZ
DE HERMOSILLO. He died Aft. Jun 1792.
Children of R
OSALIA GUTI?RREZ C ORONADO and JOAQUIN G ONZ?LEZ DE HERMOSILLO are:
i. M
A-DE-SN-L UCAS2 GONZ?LEZ DE HERMOSILLO GUTI?RRE, b. La Laja, Jalos, Jal.; m.
JUAN- MAR?A G?MEZ HM, 16 Jun 1792, Tepatitl?n de Morelos, Jal.M?x.; b. Agua
Blanca, Tepa, Jal..
Marriage Notes for M
A-DE-SN-L UCAS GONZ?LEZ DE H ERMOSILLO GUTI?RRE and JUAN- MAR?A G?MEZ HM:
Tepa.M8519.
Esta Fe se encuentra en el Vol# 05 de Matrimonios a Fojas# 82 Fte. y dice
asi:
Fue vista el Mie-10-Ene-2001.
Al Margen dice: =-510- -Aguablanca- -D.n Juan Maria- -Gomes Hurtado- -de
Mendoza- -con-
-D.a Maria de S.n- -Lucas Gonz.s de- -Hermosillo Esp.s-=
En Tepa, el 16-Jun-1792, Yo el B.r d.n Dalvador Sandoval.....a D.n Juan
Maria Gomes, Esp.l
Natural, y Vec.o de esta Felig.a en la Agua Blanca, Viudo de D.a
M.aGertrudis Romero mas-
de tres anos cuyo cuerpo esta Sepultado en esta Parroquia, con D.a M.a de
S.n Lucas Gonz.s
de Hermosillo Esp.la Natural de la Laja Felig.a de
Xalostotit.n, y desde nina Vec.a de ---
esta Felig.a en la Lavor Nueva, hija legma. de D.n Juachin Gonz.s de
Hermosillo, y de D.a-
Rosalia Gutierres Coronado, difunta: Haviendose.......fueron Pad.s D.n Jose
Manuel Gomes,y
D.a Maria Gomes: siendo testigos D.n Juan Pena, D.n Ant.o Rafael Albares, y
Thomas Cordero
Sacristan.
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ii. M
A-FELIPA-R AFA GONZ?LEZ DE HERMOSILLO GUTI?RRE, b. La Laja, Jalos, Jal.; m.
IGNACIO DE LA TORRE I BARRA, 16 Jun 1792, Tepatitl?n de Morelos, Jal.M?x.;
b. Cacastitan, Tepa, Jal..
Marriage Notes for M
A-FELIPA-R AFA GONZ?LEZ DE H ERMOSILLO GUTI?RRE and IGNACIO DE LA TORRE IBARRA:
Tepa.M8519.95 = Matrimonio de Ygnacio de la Torre con Maria Felipa Rafaela
Gonzales de Hermosillo
el 16-Jun-1792.
Tepa.M8519.
Esta Fe se encuentra en el Vol# 05 de Matrimonios a Fojas# 82 Fte. y dice
asi:
Fue vista el Mie-10-Ene-2001.
Al Margen dice: =-511- -Lavor Nueva- -D.n Ygnacio de la Tor- -re Espanol-
-con-
-D.a M.a Felipa Rafa- -ela Gonz.s de Her- -mosillo-=
En Tepa, el 16-Jun-1792, Yo el B.r D.n Salvador Sandoval.......a D.n Ygnacio
de la Torre, Esp.l
Orig.o y Vec.o de esta Felig.a en Cacastitan, hijo legmo. de D.n Juan Jose
de la Torre, y de --
D.a M.a Ybarra, con D.a M.a Felipa Rafaela Gonz.s de Hermosillo,
Esp.la
Orig.a de la Laja -----
Felig.a de Xalostot.n y Vec.a de esta Siete anos ha, en la Lavor nueva, hija
legma. de D.n ----
Juachin Gonz.s de Hermosillo, y de D.a Rosalia Gutierres, Dif.ta,
Haviendose.......fueron Pad.s
D.n Jose Manuel de la Torre, y D.a M.a Manuela Gomes, siendo testigos
D.nJuan Pena,
D.n Ant.o-
de la Mora, y Thomas Cordero Sacristan.
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Descendants of Manuel-Antonio GUTIERREZ-CORONADO
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Generation No. 1
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1.
*MANUEL-ANTONIO1 GUTIERREZ-CORONADO was born Unknown in Probablemente:
Jalisco, Mexico., and died Dead in Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico.. He
married M ARGARITA CORTES Unknown in Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico.. She
was born Unknown in Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico., and died Dead in
Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico..
Child of M
ANUEL-ANTONIO GUTIERREZ -CORONADO and MARGARITA CORTES is:
i. J
OSE-ANTONIO2 GUTIERREZ-CORONADO-CORTES, b. Unknown, Probablemente: Jalisco,
Mexico.; d. Dead, Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico.; m. M ARIA NAVARRO-VELASCO,
20 May 1789, Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco, MEXICO; b. Unknown,
Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico.; d. Dead, Probablemente: Jalisco, Mexico..
Marriage Notes for J
OSE-ANTONIO GUTIERREZ -CORONADO-CORTES and M ARIA NAVARRO-VELASCO:
Tepa.M8519.61 = Matrimonio de Maria Navarro con Jose Antonio Gutierres
Coronado el 20-May-1789.
Tepa.M8519.
Esta Fe se encuentra en el Vol# 05 de Matrimonios a Fojas# 37 Fte. y dice
asi:
Fue vista el Lun-12-Jun-2000 .
Acta# 1299, en Tepa, el 20-May-1789, a D.n Jose Antonio Gutierres Coronado,
Esp.l Orig.o y Vec.o
de esta Felig.a en Sta. Ros, hijo legmo. de D.n Manuel Ant.o Gutierres
Coronado, y de D.a ------
Margarita Cortes, con D.a Maria Navarro, Esp.la Orig.a , y
Vec.a de esta Felig.a e las Ormig.s -
hija legma. de D.n Juachin Navarro, def.to y de D.a Petra Velasco:
Haviendose...................
fueron Padrinos D.n Jasinto de la Torre, y D.a M.a Ant.a Anaya: siendo
testig.s D.n Jose Ant.o -
Pena, Nicolas Becerra, y Thomas Cordero Sacristan.
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El d?a 21/09/06, jorge luis ramirez gomez
escribi?:
>
> Aqu? les mando lo que les promet? acerca de los Guti?rrez de Mendoza que
> fundaron Pegueros, aunque no es mucho les servir? de algo. Adem?s vienen
> otros archivos de inter?s. Por cierto, no eran del Club Pegueros, eran de la
> p?gina de Luz Montejano Hilton.
>
> Eddy, sobre los fundadores de Jalostotitl?n no tengo nada, solo lo que te
> envi? por el msn.
>
> Espero y podamos seguir ayudandonos unos a otros. Por cierto Eddy me
> dijiste que viv?as en Lagos de Moreno, te quiero hacer una pregunta, ?Puedes
> sacarme datos de un acta de matrimonio de unos ancestros m?os que casaron en
> Lagos? La fecha es el 28 de agosto de 1714, matrimonio de Jos? Asencio
> Romero de Ch?vez con Ana Petrona Guerra Valadez.
>
> Tom?s una pregunta, ?No tienes nada sobre los Guti?rrez de Coronado de
> Jalostotitl?n?
>
> Saludos.
> Jorge Luis Ram?rez G?mez.
>
>
--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:
Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez
--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:
Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:50:51 -0500
From: "Josie T. Trevino"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Recording George Ryskamp
To:
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Joseph........I do not own a digital recorder......my cassette recorder has
an internal microphone. Does anyone out there who plans to attend the
Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City have the type recorder that Joseph is
referring to?
Josie in San Antonio
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:52 AM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Recording George Ryskamp
Joseph Puentes wrote:
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