Pinedos en Zacatecas y Jalisco

As far as I have been able to tell, the nexus of the Pinedos in Southern Zacatecas and Northern Jalisco seems to be Jerez/Monte Escobedo. Leonardo de la Torre y Berumen seems to think they are all descended or related (as slaves or servants to descendants) to a Rodrigo de Pinedo or Pineda that was one of the captains fighting the Chichimeca War that were the original settlers of Jerez.

I have no definitive proof of this or even that my two Pinedo lineages come from him. My father's Pinedos definitely come from Monte Escobedo. They are descended from a Diego Pinedo who was married to a Gertrudis de Avila. Their son, Lorenzo Pinedo married a granddaughter of Francisco de Escobedo (founder of San Andres Astillero, which later came to be known as Monte Escobedo). Their children were born in in San Andres Astillero. One of them later moved to Totatiche and is one of the progenitors of the name in the region.

The other two are a Diego Pinedo who is a mulato in the early 1700s in Colotlan and had lots of children and a Francisco Pinedo who appears in Tlaltenango around 1700. Before that there are no Pinedos in Tlaltenango other than a son of one of the mayors in the early 1700s who appears to have left no descendancy in the area. Francisco Pinedo appears to have immigrated from Tayahua, Zacatecas (in what is now Villanueva) since the marriage of his oldest son states that he was born in Tayahua. That makes sense and would explain why he doesn't appear anywhere before that date since the records for Tayahua are missing for those years.

It is hard to say where to look but the Pinedos are concentrated in a cocentric circle around Monte Escobedo... Colotlan, Totatiche, Monte Escobedo, Tepetongo and Jerez. What are the approximate dates for your great-grandparents baptisms/marriages? Most of those municipalities are well indexed and your ancestors would show up if they were there which makes me think they may be in an unindexed place like Valparaiso or something of the sort. Nicanor's marriage document does not list his birthplace? How about your grandfather's baptism certificate. Does it list his grandparents? Do these match those from Nicanor's marriage document?

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Chris Pineda wrote:

You seem to know alot about the Pinedos in Zacatecas...so I'm hoping you can help me out. Perhaps the bext question to ask is what towns do you think were really hubs for Pinedos and Pinedas?

I'm asking because I've been stuck for a while and don't know how to proceed. I have found 2 marriage records for my great grandfather, named Nicanor Pineda, in Tlaltenango, dated 1903 and 1914. I also found the death certificate for his first wife in Tlaltenango. The problem is that I've been unable to find his baptism or birth records...I've been searching the Tlaltenango records for some time (for 1870s-1890s), but nothing. I'm wondering now if Nicanor Pineda might have been born and baptized someplace else.

What I do know is that his father's name is Pedro Pinedo according to the records I've found and, if my grandfather remembers right, Pedro Pinedo might have been in the cavalry. I believe that Nicanor's mother was named Pioquinta (Men/Car)dosa.

So any idea on other cities to start looking at? Any help is appreciated