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Italians in Mexico (Lomelini) research Digest, Vol 6, Issue 16
Hello Alicia & Rose,
I like Maria and most likely others that have alteno ancestry
descend from Carlos Lomelini too, so please count me in too. The
prologue mentioned by Alicia lists several of our ancestors: Manuel
Gomez, Francisco Gtz. Rubio. If there is even more in the Duran book on
the Lomelin family, Alicia, would you mind sharing with us? This books
sounds so interesting...
Thanks, Irma Gomez Gtz aka Irma Gomez-Lucero
os Ranchos] Italians in Mexico
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> Hi Rose,
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> I too descend from Carlos Lomellini through two of Juana Lomelin's
> daughters. I also descend from Magdalena de Lavezares and have the
> same interest you do in learning about Italians in Mexico. I have
> found references to these lines in Mariano Gonzalez-Leal's book
> "Reto?os de Espa?a en la Nueva Galicia" Tomo II. There are also
> chapters In Jose Luis Vazquez's book on Genealogia de Nochistlan that
> trace the Lomellini's and the Lavezares descendancy.
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> I would be happy to exchange data with you. Please e-mail me
directly.
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> Maria Cortez
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>> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:00:39 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Alicia Carrillo
>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Italians in Mexico
>> To: research@NuestrosRanchos.com
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>> Rose,
>>
>> Here is a quote from the prologue by Mariano Gonzalez Leal in the
>> book, Los Duran de Nochistlan.
>>
>> " Tambien hubo en Nochistl?n, sangre Genovesa, como la de los
>> Lavezzari-aqui conocidos por Lavezares, de quienes atr?s hemos
>> hablado-y la de los Lomellini -aqui reputados Lomelines-, Carlos de
>> Lomelin, a quien en la Relacion del siglo XVII se le hace,
>> curiosamente, espa?ol de los Reinos de Genova, procedia de una de las
>> siete Casas Nobles de G?nova, y fue estanciero pr?spero en
>> Mexticac?n. Establecido alli por 1624, cas? con do?a Maria de
>> Benavides, descendiente del viejo linaje Nochistlense de ese
>> apellido, habiendo nacido de alli cinco v?stagos: Gaspar, Carlos,
>> Juana, Domingo y Maria.
>>
>> Juana cas? en Nochistl?n el 12 de Septiembre de 1621 con Rodrigo de
>> Carbajal y Ulloa; y viuda, pas? a segundas nupcias con el
>> Jalostitlense Don Francisco Guti?rrez de Hermosillo, hijo del capit?n
>> Francisco Guti?rrez Rubio y de Do?a Leonor de Hermosillo. Por estas
>> vias, gran parte de los linajes Jalostitlenses remontan su
>> ascendencia a los Lomelines de Nochistlan.
>>
>> Domingo uni? su vida a la de do?a Juana de Mendoza, Jalostitlense;
>> hija de Manuel G?mez y de do?a Catalina Hurtado de Mendoza. Cuatro
>> varones y dos hembras resultaron del connubio; a traves de tres de
>> ellos se extendi?
>> generosamente el apellido en la regi?n.
>>
>> Maria de Lomelin y de Benavides cas? con el criollo de la ciudad de
>> Mejico, Don Nicolas P?rez de Contreras. Una hija de este matrimonio,
>> Juana, que fue bautizada en Nochistlan el 3 de Febrere de 1643, cas?,
>> casi ni?a, con don Pedro Gallaga Mandarte y Rodriguez, hijo de Don
>> Pedro y de do?a Anna. Del matrimonio surgio el linage alte?o de los
>> Gallagas, rama materna del sacerdote y guerrillero don Miguel
>> Hidalgo-Costilla y Gallaga-Mandarte.
>>
>> End of quote. There is much more information about the Lomellin's but
>> since it is not indexed for the names it is time consuming to extract
>> specific information and have not had the time to do it yet.
>>
>> Alicia
>> San Jose, Ca
>>
>> Rose Hardy wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know of any books, websites, passenger ship records
>> regarding Italians immigrating to Mexico say during the late 1500's
>> to early 1800's?
>> I've checked out the Archivos Espanoles En Red website:
>> http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp to see if I could find my
>> Italian ancestors who settled in Mexico, via Spain, but have come up
>> with a big zero. I have a copy of the book " La Emigracion Castellana
>> y Leonesa al Nuevo Mundo 1517-1700" by Maria del Carmen Martinez
>> Martinez and nothing in there as well.
>>
>> The surnames involved are Lomellin, Lomelli (Carlos Lomellini about
>> 1600, children and grandchildren in Nochistlan, Zacatecas) and
>> Durazzo around Hermosillo, San Miguel de Horcasitas, Sonora in the
>> late 1700's to early 1800's.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rose
>> Fresno, CA